Is it Saturday yet?

[stillsomeguy]

Wait, I just did the math (I used a calculator, too).

Only complete dorks would call for a coach's head right after he won a national championship.

LOL!!

[Rightwinger]

Carr earned the right to call his own departure when he won that half a national championship in ’97. That’s something you know-nothing, M-clad, pot-bellied hair-lips don’t understand, having been calling for his head for over ten years now.

I never believed that crap about coaches 'earning the right' to call their departure. Who gives him this right? You can only stretch this idea to legendary coaches anyway, and Carr is far from legendary. All Carr has done is bought himself some extra time with the '97 team. You can be sure if he stays on and loses the next two to OSU, his 'right' would be taken from him. At the very most, he'll be given the opportunity to 'retire' rather than be 'fired.'

[jaster]

Lol, um, the Carr rumors have been floating for a few years now. I beleive if they have a bead on Les Miles, Carr will walk. Otherwise, he'll be back for another year or two.

You’re missing context. The speculation that Lllloyd would retire has been on-going for quite a while. What’s new is the rumor that he is, indeed, retiring and will be announcing it some time soon. This coming allegedly from someone inside the athletic department.

Walmart Wolvies being late to the party I can understand, but it’s pretty sad when an MSU grad has to provide the proper context to a Michigan grad about the coaching situation in Ann Arbor.

Oh I fully understand the context. My point is, these rumors are no more substantiated than past rumors. These same rumors popped up last year. There was an "insider" last year, about 2/3 of the way through the season when they were still undefeated, that said Carr was planning for retirement at the end of the year. Didn't happen. Maybe because they lost to OSU again, or maybe because the rumors were just that.... rumors. And yes, ESPN dove head first onto the scoop last year too. Hell, I heard about while over in the freaking United Arab Emirates.

I've been ready for Carr to retire for about 4 years now. When it happens I'll be happy. Until then, I'm not going to get excited about some rumors on a message board.

[stillsomeguy]

Carr earned the right to call his own departure when he won that half a national championship in ’97. That’s something you know-nothing, M-clad, pot-bellied hair-lips don’t understand, having been calling for his head for over ten years now.

I never believed that crap about coaches 'earning the right' to call their departure. Who gives him this right? You can only stretch this idea to legendary coaches anyway, and Carr is far from legendary. All Carr has done is bought himself some extra time with the '97 team. You can be sure if he stays on and loses the next two to OSU, his 'right' would be taken from him. At the very most, he'll be given the opportunity to 'retire' rather than be 'fired.'

The context was “over the last ten years.”

Ten years ago, Lloyd was a NC-winning coach. That earned him a pass for a good while, enough to carry him through the “disaster’ of that 5-loss season a few years back. Going from a pre-season national ranking of #3 to five loses tends to not sit well with the M money men, though.

With H, H and L graduating, it time for Lloyd to retire. And he will, I’ll bet. But he’s going to first do his best to convince the power brokers that one of his guys should take over the program, which as an MSU fan, I fully support (I'm hoping it's DeBord).

[stillsomeguy]

By the way, which one of you clowns invented this "legendofgordie" sock-puppet shtick?

That's pretty good, I must say. You had me going with the prototypical dumb Walmart Wolvie thing—dorks who very much exist in the real world, to be sure--but I'm on to you now.

Being so dumb to think an exhibition college basketball game actually means something from a win/lose standpoint was believable, but you oversold it with the "I wanted Lloyd fired ten years ago" thing. Nobody, repeat...nobody…could be that much of an ignorant moron to call for the coach of a then NC-winning team to be fired.

Good show, whichever one of you came up with that idea.
You got me.
Bravo...

[stillsomeguy]

Until then, I'm not going to get excited about some rumors on a message board.

It wasn't some random person posting speculation on a message board. It was an entry from a blogger who has scooped the media before by breaking an M football story they didn't know about.

[jaster]

Until then, I'm not going to get excited about some rumors on a message board.

It wasn't some random person posting speculation on a message board. It was an entry from a blogger who has scooped the media before by breaking an M football story they didn't know about.

We'll see about that (last year's rumor was supposedly based on "insider info" as well). If so, all the better. But, I refuse to get excited about rumors, I'll just believe it when I see it.

[jaster]

By the way, which one of you clowns invented this "legendofgordie" sock-puppet shtick?

That's pretty good, I must say. You had me going with the prototypical dumb Walmart Wolvie thing—dorks who very much exist in the real world, to be sure--but I'm on to you now.

Being so dumb to think an exhibition college basketball game actually means something from a win/lose standpoint was believable, but you oversold it with the "I wanted Lloyd fired ten years ago" thing. Nobody, repeat...nobody…could be that much of an ignorant moron to call for the coach of a then NC-winning team to be fired.

Good show, whichever one of you came up with that idea.
You got me.
Bravo...

[legendofgordi]

I happen to believe the guy's been a crap coach since day one, including the NC year. My test is this-try as I might, I just can't remember one thing in his entire coaching career that makes me say "yep, Lloyd really helped pull that game out...thankfully, he's our coach". There has been no improvement, no progression in his coaching abilities. The fact is, Lloyd runs the same dull offense year after year. He mismanages games. How many times will there be a minute and a half left, we're up by 3 before half, and he refuses to run any semblance of a two minute offense. Then someone actually displays atheletic ability, miraculously picks up 40 yards, there's 15 seconds left, and we see a field goal botched (since, you know, he can't recruit a kicker). And we leave a timeout on the board to boot. This went on in 1997 and goes on to this day. Maybe that type of coaching ability is acceptable for lesser tier schools, but, again, Michigan should aspire to better (I add that in because it's true and it because it drives some "fans" of other schools nuts to hear it). I just happen to think that along with being a respectable human being who sets a good example, you also need to be an excellent coach and recruiter. Lloyd's a nice guy, but he doesn't have the complete package.

Now, in rather sharp contrast to Lloyd Carr, there are some people out there who have absolutely nothing going for them. They tend to "retire" early by "choice". All they can offer the world are insults and drivel. They know they are easy marks and that others can shoot holes in anything they say. And as time passes, their rants tend to get more ridiculous because they know they don't have the intelligence to keep up with the rest of us, who can actually understand and process words larger than "walmart".

[Rightwinger]

He gets results despite not being the most creative guy in the world. UM ahead or tied? Run Hart (when healthy) twice up the middle and pass on third down if needed. UM behind? Pass on first down then mix in passes and Hart runs as needed. It is predictable.